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    Post by Hert Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:28 am

    I'll move this later, I just didn't have anywhere else to put it.

    1st Gen:

    Venusaur: String Shot, Worry Seed, Block, Headbutt, Power Whip, Sludge
    Charizard: Tailwind, Headbutt
    Blastoise: Headbutt, Water Spout
    Butterfree: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Beedrill: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Pidgeot: Tailwind, Sky Attack
    Raticate: Super Fang, Headbutt
    Fearow: Tailwind, Sky Attack, FeatherDance
    Arbok: Headbutt, Switcheroo
    Raichu: Headbutt, Flail
    Sandslash: Super Fang, Headbutt, Mud Shot
    Nidoqueen: Super Fang, Headbutt, Skull Bash, Amnesia, Confusion, Sucker Punch, Head Smash
    Nidoking: Super Fang, Headbutt
    Clefable: Gravity, Role Play, Magic Coat, Heal Bell, Headbutt, Aromatherapy
    Ninetales: Pain Split, Magic Coat, Headbutt, Power Swap
    Wigglytuff: Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play, Magic Coat, Heal Bell, Headbutt
    Vileplume: Worry Seed, Teeter Dance
    Parasect: String Shot, Worry Seed, Bug Bite, Agility
    Venomoth: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Dugtrio: Reversal
    Persian: Headbutt, Tail Whip
    Golduck: Worry Seed, Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Encore
    Primeape: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Encore
    Arcanine: Headbutt, Morning Sun
    Poliwrath: Headbutt, Encore
    Alakazam: Gravity, Role Play, Magic Coat, Headbuttk
    Machamp: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Power Trick
    Victreebel: Worry Seed, Weather Ball
    Tentacruel: Role Play, Muddy Water
    Golem: Block, Headbutt, Curse
    Rapidash: Headbutt, Morning Sun
    Slowbro: Role Play, Block, Headbutt
    Farfetch'd: Headbutt, Leaf Blade
    Dodrio: Sky Attack
    Dewgong: Headbutt, Stockpile, Spit Up, Swallow
    Muk: Pain Split, Block
    Cloyster: Rock Blast
    Gengar: Pain Split, Magic Coat, Headbutt, Disable
    Hypno: Role Play, Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Guard Swap
    Kingler: Agility
    Electrode: Role Play, Headbutt
    Exeggutor: Gravity, Worry Seed, Low Kick, Headbutt, Power Swap
    Marowak: Low Kick, Headbutt, Detect
    Hitmonlee: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt
    Hitmonchan: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt
    Weezing: Pain Split
    Kangaskhan: Low Kick, Headbutt
    Seadra: Headbutt, Razor Wind, Muddy Water
    Seaking: Body Slam
    Starmie: Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play
    Mr. Mime: Role Play, Magic Coat, Headbutt, Nasty Plot
    Jynx: Role Play, Magic Coat, Heal Bell, Headbutt, Nasty Plot
    Pinsir: String Shot, Headbutt
    Tauros: Magic Coat, Headbutt
    Gyarados: Headbutt
    Lapras: Heal Bell, Block, Headbutt
    Vaporeon: Heal Bell, Headbutt, Detect
    Jolteon: Heal Bell, Headbutt, Detect
    Flareon: Heal Bell, Headbutt, Detect
    Omastar: Headbutt, Muddy Water
    Kabutops: Low Kick: Headbutt
    Aerodactyl: Tailwind, Sky Attack, Headbutt
    Snorlax: Block, Headbutt
    Articuno: Tailwind, Sky Attack
    Zapdos: Tailwind, Sky Attack
    Moltres: Tailwind, Sky Attack
    Dragonite: Tailwind, Headbutt, ExtremeSpeed
    Mewtwo: Gravity, Role Play, Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt
    Mew: Super Fang, Pain Split, String Shot, Tailwind, Gravity, Worry Seed, Role Play, Magic Coat, Heal Bell, Low Kick, Sky Attack, Block, Bug Bite, Headbutt

    2nd Gen:

    Meganium: Worry Seed, Role Play, Headbutt
    Typhlosion: Low Kick, Headbutt, Extrasensory
    Feraligatr: Low Kick, Headbutt, Aqua Jet
    Hoothoot: Tailwind, Role Play
    Noctowl: Tailwind, Role Play, Sky Attack
    Ledian: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite, Headbutt
    Ariados: String Shot, Bug Bite
    Crobat: Super Fang, Tailwind, Sky Attack
    Lanturn: Heal Bell
    Xatu: Pain Split, Tailwind, Role Play, Sky Attack
    Ampharos: Heal Bell, Headbutt
    Bellossom: Worry Seed, Teeter Dance
    Azumarill: Headbutt
    Sudowoodo: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Block, Headbutt
    Politoed: Headbutt
    Jumpluff: Worry Seed, Headbutt
    Sunflora: Earth Power, Worry Seed
    Quagsire: Headbutt, Recover
    Espeon: Role Play, Heal Bell, Headbutt, Detect
    Umbreon: Heal Bell, Headbutt, Detect
    Slowking: Role Play, Block, Headbutt
    Girafarig: Gravity, Role Play, Headbutt, Razor Wind
    Forretress: Pain Split, String Shot, Gravity, Block, Bug Bite, Headbutt, Power Trick
    Dunsparce: Pain Split, Role Play, Headbutt, Agility
    Steelix: Block, Headbutt
    Granbull: Super Fang, Heal Bell, Low Kick, Headbutt
    Qwilfish: Pain Split, Headbutt, Aqua Jet
    Scizor: Tailwind, Bug Bite, Headbutt
    Shuckle: String Shot, Bug Bite, Headbutt
    Heracross: Low Kick, Bug Bite, Headbutt
    Ursaring: Low Kick, Headbutt, Belly Drum
    Magcargo: Pain Split
    Corsola: Role Play, Headbutt, Curse
    Octillery: String Shot, Water Spout
    Delibird: Sky Attack, Headbutt, Fake Out
    Mantine: String Shot, Tailwind, Headbutt
    Skarmory: Tailwind, Sky Attack, Guard Swap
    Houndoom: Super Fang, Magic Coat, Headbutt, Feint
    Kingdra: Headbutt, Razor Wind, Muddy Water
    Donphan: Block, Headbutt, Head Smash
    Porygon2: Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play
    Stantler: Gravity, Magic Coat, Headbutt, Megahorn
    Hitmontop: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt
    Miltank : Heal Bell, Block, Headbutt
    Blissey: Gravity, Heal Bell, Block, Headbutt
    Raikou: Headbutt
    Entei: Headbutt
    Suicune: Tailwind, Headbutt
    Tyranitar: Low Kick, Block, Headbutt
    Lugia: Tailwind, Sky Attack, Headbutt, Weather Ball, Dragon Rush
    Ho-oh: Tailwind, Sky Attack, Weather Ball, Brave Bird
    Celebi: Worry Seed, Role Play, Heal Bell

    3rd Gen:

    Sceptile: Worry Seed, Low Kick, Headbutt, Razor Wind
    Blaziken: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Featherdance
    Swampert: Low Kick, Headbutt
    Mightyena: Super Fang, Headbutt
    Linoone: Super Fang, Headbutt
    Beautifly: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Dustox: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Ludicolo: Headbutt, Counter
    Shiftry: Tailwind, Worry Seed, Low Kick, Headbutt, Power Swap
    Swellow: Tailwind, Sky Attack
    Pelipper: Tailwind, Sky Attack
    Gardevoir: Pain Split, Role Play, Heal Bell, Headbutt, Encore
    Masquerain: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Breloom: Worry Seed, Headbutt
    Slaking: Low Kick, Block, Headbutt
    Ninjask: String Shot, Bug Bite
    Shedinja: String Shot, Bug Bite
    Exploud: Low Kick, Headbutt, Hammer Arm
    Hariyama: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Feint
    Delcatty: Heal Bell, Headbutt, Mud Bomb
    Sableye: Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play, Low Kick, Headbutt, Feint
    Mawile: Super Fang, Pain Split, Headbutt, Guard Swap
    Aggron: Low Kick, Block, Headbutt, Head Smash
    Medicham: Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play, Magic Coat. Low Kick, Headbutt
    Manectric: Headbutt, Switcheroo
    Plusle: Headbutt, Discharge
    Minun: Headbutt, Discharge
    Volbeat: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Illumise: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Swalot: Pain Split, Block, Headbutt
    Sharpedo: Super Fang
    Wailord: Block, Headbutt, Aqua Ring
    Camerupt : Headbutt, Stockpile, Spit Up, Swallow
    Torkoal: Headbutt, Skull Bash
    Grumpig : Role Play, Magic Coat, Heal Bellm Headbutt
    Spinda: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt
    Flygon: Tailwind, Bug Bite, Headbutt, Mud Shot
    Cacturne: Worry Seed, Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Nasty Plot
    Swablu: Tailwind, Heal Bell, Power Swap
    Altaria: Tailwind, Heal Bell, Sky Attack, Power Swap
    Zangoose: Low Kick, Headbutt, Disable
    Seviper: Headbutt, Switcheroo
    Lunatone : Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play
    Solrock : Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play
    Whiscash: Headbutt, Dragon Dance
    Crawdaunt: Dragon Dance
    Claydol: Gravity, Role Play, Headbutt
    Cradily: Pain Split, String Shot, Worry Seed, Block, Headbutt, Curse
    Armaldo: String Shot, Low Kick, Block, Headbutt, Curse
    Milotic: Role Play
    Castform: Tailwind
    Kecleon: Role Play, Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Recover
    Banette: Pain Split, Role Play, Magic Coat, Headbutt
    Tropius: Tailwind, Worry Seed, Headbutt, Dragon Dance
    Chimecho: Gravity, Role Play, Heal Bell
    Absol: Role Play, Magic Coat, Headbutt, Megahorn
    Glalie: Super Fang, Block, Headbutt, Weather Ball
    Walrein : Super Fang, Block, Headbutt, Aqua Ring
    Huntail: Super Fang, Muddy Water
    Gorebyss: Muddy Water
    Relicanth: Headbutt, Muddy Water
    Luvdisc: Aqua Jet
    Salamence: Tailwind, Headbutt
    Metagross: Gravity, Block, Headbutt
    Regirock: Gravity, Block, Headbutt
    Regice: Gravity, Block, Headbutt
    Registeel: Gravity, Block, Headbutt
    Latias : Tailwind, Role Play, Magic Coat
    Latios : Tailwind, Role Play
    Kyogre: Block, Headbutt, Aqua Ring, Muddy Water
    Groudon: Block, Headbutt, Lava Plume, Hammer Arm
    Rayquaza: Tailwind, Headbutt, Hyper Voice, Air Slash
    Jirachi: Gravity, Role Play, Headbutt
    Deoxys: Gravity, Role Play, Low Kick, Headbutt

    4th Gen:

    Torterra: Worry Seed, Block, Headbutt, Stockpile, Spit Up, Swallow
    Infernape: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Assist
    Empoleon: Headbutt, Featherdance
    Staraptor: Tailwind, Sky Attack
    Bibarel: Super Fang, Headbutt
    Kricketune: String Shot, Bug Bite
    Luxray: Headbutt, Night Slash
    Roserade: Worry Seed
    Rampardos: Pain Split, Headbutt, Curse
    Bastiodon: Role Play, Block, Headbutt, Counter
    Wormadam-P: String Shot, Worry Seed, Bug Bite
    Wormadam-G: String Shot, Bug Bite
    Wormadam-S: String Shot, Bug Bite
    Mothim: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Vespiquen: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite
    Pachirisu: Super Fang, Headbutt
    Floatzel: Headbutt
    Cherrim: Worry Seed
    Gastrodon: Pain Split, String Shot, Block, Headbutt
    Ambipom: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt
    Drifblim: Pain Split, Tailwind, Role Play, Weather Ball
    Lopunny: Role Play, Heal Bell, Low Kick, Headbutt, Flail
    Mismagius : Pain Split, Role Play, Heal Bell, Headbutt, Nasty Plot
    Honchkrow: Tailwind, Sky Attack, Brave Bird
    Purugly : Super Fang, Headbutt, Flail
    Skuntank: Headbutt, Haze
    Bronzong : Gravity, Block
    Chatot: Tailwind, Magic Coat, Sky Attack
    Spiritomb: Pain Split
    Garchomp: Headbutt, Mud Shot
    Lucario: Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Follow Me
    Hippowdon: Headbutt, Dig, Revenge
    Drapion: Bug Bite, Headbutt
    Toxicroak : Super Fang, Magic Coat, Low Kick, Headbutt, Counter
    Carnivine: Worry Seed, Bug Bite
    Lumineon: Tailwind
    Mantyke : Headbutt
    Abomasnow: Worry Seed, Magic Coat, Block, Headbutt, Skull Bash
    Weavile: Low Kick, Headbutt, Assist
    Magnezone: Gravity, Role Play, Headbutt
    Lickilicky: Block, Headbutt, Muddy Water
    Rhyperior : Block, Headbutt, Skull Bash
    Tangrowth: Pain Split, Worry Seed, Block, Headbutt, Power Swap
    Electivire : Low Kick, Headbutt, Feint
    Magmortar: Low Kick, Headbutt, Belly Drum
    Togekiss: Tailwind, Role Play, Heal Bell, Sky Attack, Headbutt, Extrasensory
    Yanmega: String Shot, Tailwind, Bug Bite, Headbutt
    Leafeon: Worry Seed, Heal Bell, Headbutt, Detect
    Glaceon: Heal Bell, Headbutt, Detect
    Gliscor: Tailwind, Sky Attack, Headbutt, Power Trick
    Mamoswine: Block, Headbutt
    Porygon-Z: Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play
    Gallade: Pain Split, Role Play, Low Kick, Headbutt, Encore
    Probopass: Pain Split, Gravity, Role Play, Block, Headbutt, Head Smash
    Dusknoir: Pain Split, Gravity, Headbutt
    Froslass: Pain Split, Block, Headbutt, Weather Ball
    Rotom : Pain Split
    Uxie: Role Play, Magic Coat, Heal Bell, Headbutt
    Mesprit: Role Play, Magic Coat, Headbutt
    Azelf: Role Play, Magic Coat, Headbutt
    Dialga: Gravity, Headbutt, Metal Burst, Power Gem
    Palkia: Gravity, Headbutt, Hydro Pump, Power Gem
    Heatran : Bug Bite, Headbutt
    Regigigas: Gravity, Block, Headbutt
    Giratina: Pain Split, Tailwind, Gravity, Role Play, Headbutt, Shadow Sneak, Destiny Bond
    Cresselia: Gravity, Role Play
    Phione: Heal Bell
    Manaphy: Heal Bell
    Darkrai: Headbutt
    Shaymin: Tailwind, Worry Seed, Headbutt
    Arceus: Tailwind, Gravity, Role Play, Headbutt
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    Post by Phantom Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:18 pm

    Typhlosion - Extrasensory

    I think I came.
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    Post by Tempest_01 Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:32 pm

    New move-tutors are amazing. Most notable are Block and BUG BITE FOR SCIZOR, and that 90% of fliers have tailwind.

    (has 60 BP).

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    Post by Hert Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:57 pm

    I haven't looked through the whole thing yet but, some of the most notable I saw were:

    Dragonite gets Extremespeed
    Cloyster gets Rock Blast (Skill Link)
    Mismagmus get Nasty Plot and Pain Split
    Rampy gets Curse (Trick Room)
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    Post by Tempest_01 Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:58 pm

    Hert wrote:I haven't looked through the whole thing yet but, some of the most notable I saw were:

    Dragonite gets Extremespeed
    Cloyster gets Rock Blast (Skill Link)
    Mismagmus get Nasty Plot and Pain Split
    Rampy gets Curse (Trick Room)

    fortress gets pain split too Very Happy
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    Post by Hert Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:00 pm

    The hell? How'd you do that so quick. Stalker Neutral
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    Post by Tempest_01 Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:02 pm

    Hert wrote:The hell? How'd you do that so quick. Stalker Neutral
    TEC told me, people already looked through the move tutors.

    Imagine the following MS:

    Metagross

    Explosion
    Stealth Rock
    Meteor Mash
    Block
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    Post by Hert Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:07 pm

    I meant how you posted like a split second after I did. And yeah, amazing lead right there.
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    Post by Phantom Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:26 pm

    Other notables:


    Jynx with Nasty Plot
    Metagross/Regis/Steelix/Snorlax with Block ( O_o )
    Crobat with super fang (can half hp of walls, coupled with speed and poison, etc )
    Foretress with Power Trick ? Very Happy
    Mantine with string shot ( lol jk)
    Suicune with tailwind ._.
    Blissey with Heal Bell oh my ****ing goodness
    Whishcash/Crawdant with Dragon Dance?! Maybe they'll be viable if he can set up.




    Overall, some of these may be Metagame changing (like, i mean, Scizor's BP was enough to rock), but the rest are like, headbutt. Idk, maybe string shot will start to come into play?
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    Post by Tempest_01 Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:52 am

    Phantom wrote:Other notables:


    Jynx with Nasty Plot
    Metagross/Regis/Steelix/Snorlax with Block ( O_o )
    Crobat with super fang (can half hp of walls, coupled with speed and poison, etc )
    Foretress with Power Trick ? Very Happy
    Mantine with string shot ( lol jk)
    Suicune with tailwind ._.
    Blissey with Heal Bell oh my ****ing goodness
    Whishcash/Crawdant with Dragon Dance?! Maybe they'll be viable if he can set up.
    Jynx loool who cares MISMAGIUS

    yes the gross block thing is good.

    crobat is amazing.

    Fortress is bette rwith pain split.

    Suicune already had tailwind.

    Blissey already has aromatherapy.
    Whiscash/crawdaunt suck.

    Learn to OU phantom X____X
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    Post by Mahgnittoc Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:31 pm

    Magmortar got Belly Drum...
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    Post by Hert Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:48 pm

    I didn't see that Mahg, good catch, now if only he got Flash Fire or a fire based version of Motor Drive :3
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    Post by Phantom Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:52 pm

    Tempest_01 wrote:
    Phantom wrote:Other notables:


    Jynx with Nasty Plot
    Metagross/Regis/Steelix/Snorlax with Block ( O_o )
    Crobat with super fang (can half hp of walls, coupled with speed and poison, etc )
    Foretress with Power Trick ? Very Happy
    Mantine with string shot ( lol jk)
    Suicune with tailwind ._.
    Blissey with Heal Bell oh my ****ing goodness
    Whishcash/Crawdant with Dragon Dance?! Maybe they'll be viable if he can set up.
    Jynx loool who cares MISMAGIUS

    yes the gross block thing is good.

    crobat is amazing.

    Fortress is bette rwith pain split.

    Suicune already had tailwind.

    Blissey already has aromatherapy.
    Whiscash/crawdaunt suck.

    Learn to OU phantom X____X



    I rape you with lower tiers, shut up. Atleast my team isn't to keep up with a Dialga.

    Jynx is fast, and has odd typing that most people dont prepare for.

    I know hes better with pain split, but now I can try to use more than shuckle to pull this off.

    Why is it on the new moves list

    K sorry didn't know,

    and, you retard. High attack pokemon, with the ability to raise both their attack and speed, are good.

    Hence Dos, the Psuedo Legends, etc.


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    Post by Tempest_01 Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:34 am

    Oh god I barely kept up with that D; quotes destroyed. Also, the fact that you use UU doesn't matter, both tiers play differently, and I play the one with the most pokemon I'm interested in. UU pokemon are boring to me. ESPECIALLY with that lack of Umbreon, and the addition of Dugtrio... SO ****ING GAY.

    Jynx has a unique typing that's weak to SR, and the most OU of pokemon, and some UU pokmeon.

    Shuckle has both defenses to his advantage... Mad I don't see any utility behind a Power Trick Foretress.

    Suicune has used Tail-wind against me tons, but it's new because many fliers use it now who couldn't before.

    <______<lolblisseyissoOUyoudon'tknowthenormalmovesets.

    Whiscash doesn't have the stats or typing to make UU with the prevailing Venasaur/Roserade around (though iirc latter is going BL). Crawdaunt has a big chance to move up I guess, as physical waters are REALLY rare. That was a silly judgement on my part to assume he sucks. Whiscash does suck though.

    That point is moot, as any pokemon that loses their primary stat-upper will suck, but to add one doesn't make them instantly good (hey look Lucario has Agil, soopohmancan'tdealwithit). Altaria is only decent in UU and it can run the exact Salamence set iirc (even though it shouldn't).
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    Post by Hert Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:56 am

    Wishcash sucks... Crawdaunt's only problem was a lack of speed, which he now gets. He'll still probably be outclassed by Gyara, but he has decent enough physical movepool to do ok.
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    Post by Phantom Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:34 pm

    Whishscash is amazing






    Not competetively, though. And that's all I need to run a team.


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